The Gun and Jesus Christ

As I read the stories of broken lives and stolen futures, my blood just boils. I want the kleptocrats in Washington, D.C. and the banksters in New York to pay. I want the pornographers and the pedophiles to pay. I want the corrupt judges and the corrupt lawyers to pay. I want the psychopaths running our intelligence services and corporations to pay. I want them all to pay.

I am white-hot at the evil that is happening, and the desire for vengeance boils in my blood. And, I would be seeking a way to be out there exacting that vengeance, …except for one thing.

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The Gun and Jesus Christ

The standoff at the Bundy Ranch will probably turn out to be a watershed moment for most of us who are concerned about the growing evil that has been rearing its ugly head in America. Guns were drawn by both sides, and it was a miracle that men and women did not lose their lives.

Steve posted a link to a video on Monday that encapsulates the central question:

ALERT Sheriff Gillespie Seeks Slaughter

YouTube shortlink: http://youtu.be/ilDfAqDNUe4

Lieutenant Colonel (ret.) Roy Potter knows exactly what he’s talking about.

What would have happened if even one BLM agent lost his life?

Or, maybe I should have asked a different question:

How many agents did Satan want dead on that day?

The answer:

All of them.

And, we Christians almost gave Satan exactly what he wanted.

Does that sound like a good idea to you?

Jesus Christ

Let me ask you another question:

What did Jesus say about situations like this?

He said this:

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.Matthew 5:39-40

In the same chapter, Jesus said this about our purpose:

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. – Matthew 5:16

He also said this:

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.Matthew 10:16

As the vile and filthy Luciferian kleptocrats in Washington D.C. send their wolves to bay at our doors, let me ask you this question:

What should we do?

Let me clarify that with a better question:

What would Jesus want you to do?

In fact, as they led Him away to His death…

What did the Supreme High Commander of the Armies of God do?

He allowed Himself to be sacrificed, and we will be remembering that sacrifice in every church, around the world – this Sunday.

The Gun

A gun has only one purpose – to kill. If you buy a gun for any other reason in mind, then you are a fool. ( …okay, okay, unless you’re a nut for target practice.)

I believe that God allows us to kill in self defense, but you need to think about what God will say to you when you stand before Him – if you haven’t made sure to do everything possible to never be in a position to take a life. And, the rule for guns is this:

Never draw a gun, unless you intend to shoot.

Never shoot unless you intend to kill.

And, if the government comes to take you away… well, you know what Jesus did.

That One Thing

To me, the title of this article is an obscenity. The name of Jesus Christ should never share a title or a sentence with the word ‘gun’ – unless to prove a point.

Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.Romans 12:19-21

I really don’t want to release my right to take up arms against the evil of this world. I really don’t. I know that you don’t, either. But, I must keep telling myself that vengeance…

is His.

Really. Are you ready for this?
(That’s a link. Do more than just think about it.)

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55 thoughts on “The Gun and Jesus Christ

  1. GRACE & PEACE!

    My Brother John Little,

    AWESOME ARTICLE! I love the approach Jesus Christ took in every issue he was faced with. From previous articles you’ve shared with us, some are able to apprehend God! Allow me to explain. Many of us comprehend God by receiving the Holy Spirit and applying that Holy Spirit to THE WORD of God! Literally THE SON OF GOD. Comprehension is something that is difficult enough for most to fully understand. If you search The Word, you’ll find that no single one of us as brothers and sisters in Christ have all the answers. It’s in the collective that we are able to connect the mysteries of God in such a way as to receive the full impact of the message God has sent to us all.

    The messages on how we should behave in situations like this are very clear in the teachings of Jesus Christ. It’s the latent messages from Old to New that we can get cross wired in our thinking. In previous postings I have mentioned scripture of Old Testament origin, which in and of itself, will stand as true words of God. For if we are true believers in God, Jesus Christ, and The Ru’Achhh, we must believe each word is true and applies to us as it did to them.

    Apprehension of God, of Jesus, and the Holy Spirit comes from diligently processing The Word of God through our Spirit/Soul/and mind until we are filled with God/Jesus Christ/and the Holy Spirit. What you have done is reinforced your very existence on this web page. You see? Your purpose is to inform others that the TRAIN IS COMING! Without provocation, we as Christians should be “wise as serpents” and avoid the battle that would not honor our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Thank you so much for following the Holy Spirit’s movement within you and giving others a clear perspective of the LOVE Jesus Christ has for all!

    This may sound in contradiction to previous posts I’ve made. It truly isn’t. You see? The clarity comes from The Word. Not my heart nor yours, for man’s hearts are inherently evil. Given the full spectrum of what the word says, one can APPREHEND the fullness of JESUS CHRIST if you continue to feed The Word to an otherwise corruptible flesh.

    The world we now live in is not the world God intended. The murderers dwelling here are here because previous generations have not followed The Word of God. Had they done so, we would live in Utopia, or heaven, or THE GARDEN OF EDEN. Do with what we can do. The Word is the answer. Protect those of your family and those you have been commissioned to protect. Remember! The battle has already been won. I will feel terribly sorrowful for taking a life if they come for one under my care. I will offer words spoken by Jesus of redemption for those who fall under my weapon or any other. But I will protect my loved ones. And as I said before, “It will take True Christians to settle this battle, for Christ Jesus will manifest within our body, the real church, and do his bidding with such as will come. And they will come!

    APPREHEND GOD! Don’t just comprehend him. Fill yourselves daily with his WORD, JESUS CHRIST! The weapons are just to scare those who believe they have no alternative. If they change my address as they did my Lord’s, Jesus Christ has truly won! Speak the words of Christ in these situations and you will not fail!

    Ephesians 3:10 To the intent that now unto the (principalities) and (powers) in heavenly places might be known by the (church) the MANIFOLD WISDOM OF GOD.
    “we are teaching the angels and saints in heaven, also the ranks of the angels of darkness.”

    Ephesians 3:19 And to know the LOVE of CHRIST, which passeth KNOWLEDGE, that ye might be filled with all the FULLNESS OF GOD.
    “that’s apprehending God”

    Ephesians 3:20 Now unto him that is ABLE to do EXCEEDINGLY ABUNDANTLY ABOVE ALL that we ASK OR THINK, according to the POWER that WORKETH in US.
    “he will give to your very greatest need if YOU ASK!” “LET THE WORD SPEAK!”

    CLARITY HAS BEEN SPELLED OUT IN THE WORD! WELL SPOKEN watchman john little! I am my brother’s keeper!

    GOD’S GRACE!
    westtexaswatchman-harmless as a dove
    PSALM 91

  2. GRACE & PEACE!

    John, a personal note to you. Keep speaking the word my brother. There are those who will most assuredly take offense to the teaching of Christ Jesus. Stand firm in the word and protect those loved ones with everything you have! You are awake and accounted for. When the devastation begins, many, who may not be awake, will remember the articles which have been crystal clear in the ways of Jesus Christ. Without the meaningful discussions of these issues, many would be lost in where they should turn. The answer is always, “THE WORD”!

    BE BLESSED BROTHER!

    jamestimms

  3. John,
    You have put words to my thoughts over the last few months. You have really hit the nail on the head; this is perhaps the line in the sand for many comfortable christians living in north america. We truly have never experienced suffering or sacrifice like many christians under tyrannical governments. I pray I will not waver but look to the Saviour
    and do as Jesus did. Thank you for your insight, wisdom and the ability to put it all together.

  4. Hi John,

    I’ve struggled with this question myself. My dad bought me my first rifle when I turned twelve years old. I’ve always owned guns and I expect I always will. I have determined Christians have a duty to resist evil with appropriate force. What would a good shepherd do if a lion or a bear threatened to harm his flock? What would a good father do if a violent criminal threatened to harm his children or even his neighbor? Abraham was our father in the faith and he delivered his nephew Lot with a great slaughter. King David was a bloody man and he was the Lord’s beloved. However, violently resisting the government is plainly not an option according to the Bible. What did Moses do when Pharaoh was going to kill him? He fled. What did David do when Saul was going to kill him? He fled. What did Elijah do when Ahab was going to kill him? He fled. What did Joseph and Mary do when King Herod was going to kill their son? They fled. God is good and so far I have not had to make either decision…not yet.

    • Hi Michael Haller,

      You illustrate the point well. We have a responsibility to protect others, so it appears that God doesn’t ban ALL use of force.

      I can only speak for myself, but I believe that the Bible plainly calls us to sacrifice our lives for our faith. And, we have no accounts of any of the apostles taking up arms in self-defense when they were murdered.

      But, a robber that breaks into my house in the dead of night?

      All of this is difficult. All that I can say is avoid doing what Satan wants you to do, and do everything that you can to keep from taking a life.

      The early church fled persecution, and this has been our lot for most of the past two thousand years. It shouldn’t surprise us that the time is coming to flee yet again.

      Thank you, Michael. Excellent comment.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  5. John,
    I usually agree with you on most everything you say and I forward them on to all of my contacts, but on this one I disagree with you, and I will not be forwarding it. I don’t have time to write a essay on the theology of self-defense, and our duty to protect our families, children, our life, liberty, property, and our nation from internal foreign invasion and usurpation, the treason, betrayal and sedition, of those whom we have untrusted with our govt. It is our duty as soldiers of the most high God to resist and fight evil till Jesus comes back to get us (with the guidance of the Holy Spirit). It is the apathy of the Church which has gotten us where we are today.

    Pastor Chuck Baldwin and his son Tim have written two books on the subject.

    To Keep or Not to keep – Why Christians should not give up their guns
    http://keepyourarms.com/

    The Complete Christian Exegesis on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
    Today the debate over firearms rages, and on the heels of national tragedy and death, schools and other places have become “firearm free zones.” In addition, many in government are attempting to pass laws disarming the American people. This book To Keep or Not to Keep aims to equip every Bible believing Christian in America with the scriptural tools and knowledge they will need to make wise decisions about the defense of their family.

    and also,

    ROMANS 13: The True Meaning of Submission
    http://romans13truth.com/

    The Problem

    Many Christian pastors and leaders today are erroneously reviving the divine-right-of-kings argument used in the Dark Ages, which created some of the most horrific human affairs in history.

    They, like the grandfather of Communism, Georg Hegel, argue that government is divinely sanctioned to do anything it pleases and that God requires people to submit regardless of natural standards of justice.

    This argument has been used by virtually every tyrant since Jesus’ life, including Adolf Hitler, and it is fallaciously being used by Christians.

    This false premise is doing more to bring America and the rest of the world into oppression and slavery than perhaps any other doctrine.

    Holders of this doctrine are creating self-fulfilling prophecies of America’s ruin–all in the name of a shallow reading and misconstruction of Romans chapter 13.

    This interpretation of the Bible and Romans chapter 13 has not gone unchallenged: it is Romans 13-The True Meaning of Submission.

    The Response

    Romans 13: The True Meaning of Submission shows, with overwhelming support, that submission to government is limited and that the obey-government-no-matter-what argument is false!

    Romans 13: The True Meaning of Submission discusses and shows sound rules of biblical interpretation and construction, incorporates logical and literary reasoning, and uses hundreds of Scriptural proofs for its conclusions.

    Every person, pastor, and Christian, whether skilled in biblical concepts or not, can and will learn from Romans 13: The True Meaning of Submission.

    Perhaps more than any other resource, Romans 13: The True Meaning of Submission will help you achieve a much greater and deeper understanding of and appreciation for the Biblical teaching regarding a person’s duty of submission and relationship towards government.

    There is hardly a subject today more needed in political, philosophical, and theological studies.

    • Hi Smilardog,

      I appreciate your thoughts, and I thank you for your support.

      This is a difficult issue, and few of us will agree on exactly where the line is. Furthermore, this is a personal issue, since we will all stand alone before God and give answer alone for our actions.

      Having spent so much time in Israel, I believe that I have picked up something of an understanding of the significance of the words of Jesus when He called for everyone to cooperate with the illegal occupiers of the Land of Israel – The Romans. The Israelis were desperate to get rid of them, and Jesus spoke of accepting their presence. I see a parallel today as America has become ‘occupied territory’.

      Secondly, we need to keep in mind that this world is not our home. We are citizens of a better place, and the mistakes that we make here have an eternal significance.

      Please choose well.

      Thank you, Smilardog, for your well-thought-out comment.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  6. Gun ownership and use has nothing to do with vengeance. It has to do with our responsibility towards our fellow men and women, first in our own households, and then towards our neighbors. If you cannot see that when a man is commanded by God to make provision for his household or he is worse than an infidel, that includes protecting his wife from being raped by lawless men who force themselves upon him, then you are terribly deceived.

    You must never take one scripture out of the whole and use it to discount a very important responsibility the churches today ignore and even teach against. I challenge you to see how the seminaries were infiltrated with this irresponsible doctrine that paved the way for the German churches to submit to Hitler. After all, Hitler’s favorite passage was the currently traditional interpretation of Romans 13, and he himself preached it from pulpits across Germany, demanding Christians’ submission. And they gave him that submission. And the blood of the people he slaughtered is upon those Christians’ hands for doing so.

    Follow your own logic to its final conclusion: no Christian can ever be a soldier or a policeman. Would you even be able to be in Taiwan writing this blog if such were true? Who paid the price for the freedoms you enjoy? And how?

    • Hi Clay Anthony,

      It’s interesting how each person has a different view of what I wrote.

      I was not saying that all self-defense was wrong. I was only saying that you must think carefully and do the best that you can to not take a life.

      Furthermore, my statement still stands. Only a fool buys a gun for any other reason than to kill. (except target practice)

      Are you truly ready to take a life?

      Will that action be acceptable to God?

      Are you sure?

      Please understand that you will stand before God one day and answer for what you do here in this life.

      We are called to be as Christ. Would Jesus own a gun? Would He kill someone for political aims?

      Did any of the disciples/apostles defend their lives by force of arms when they were killed? Did Jesus? Did they take up swords against the illegal occupiers of their land?

      We are called to be a reflection of Christ into this dark world – men and women of peace. Furthermore, we are suffering these evils today because we have strayed from the path of righteousness. Every evil in the world today is also found in our churches.

      Thank you, Clay, for that comment.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

      • Morning John, while I haven’t taken the time to read all the responses to this article, I can ‘see’ and ‘hear’ the passions of the responses.

        Here is a perspective that I’m not sure anyone has addressed and it’s completely open for rebuttal and debate…

        In short, I completely agree with the position that ‘we’ as Christians are suppose to ‘love’ our enemies, “…do good to those who persecute us…”. As much as that grinds at my very soul, it’s still doable… (love is an action, not a feeling… feelings deceive)

        However, I look at Psalm 139, and the words of David: “Do I not hate those who hate You oh LORD, and do I not loathe those who rise up against You… I hate them with the utmost hatred for they have become my enemies”.

        I see a distention between people who are “my” enemies and those who declare themselves “enemies of GOD”.

        Rule #3. Define the ‘words’ being used in the conversation, debate, rebuttal,…

        What is an ‘enemy’?

        Lat. Hostile, unfriendly.. One animated with hatred and malignity towards another; one who attempts to injure another in every way: a foe, opponent: specif. ‘the old Enemy, the Devil. 2. a A nation, state, army, at war with another; b. part of a hostile force. 3. a A person whose aims, interests, ideals, and efforts are opposed to a cause, principle, method: an enemy of freedom, of Free Trade, of progress and c.: b a hostile force or factor, one force or influence that is injurious to another.. (Webster unabridged 1957 3rd. printing)

        Having said that, Muslims openly declare their hatred towards Christians, Jews, and ultimately YHWH by their words and their actions… okay then, that makes it easy… they are not ‘my’ enemy, they are ‘enemies’ of GOD Almighty GOD. (Don’t you find it interesting that we have one of those individuals sitting in the White House?)

        At this point, this is where I give the floor to Chuck Baldwin… whom I’m in complete agreement with on this issue…

        I fully understand that not everyone is called to be a ‘warrior’ / literally – a battle line soldier – out there where there is real blood, and real gore in the physical realm. And, while I fully agree that our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the spiritual realm, history has shown time and time again, that many times, you stop the advancement of the ‘evil’ in the spiritual realm by stopping it in the physical realm… and sometimes, that requires bullets….

        • Hi Jerry C,

          I’m afraid that this is where I must strongly disagree. You are speaking of political goals, not personal self-defense.

          Furthermore, because of our great sin, God has handed America over. You cannot fight a spiritual problem with physical means. You could defeat the entire government, and the evil would still spring back.

          It is WE and our sin that is the problem.

          I’m sorry, Jerry. Taking up arms against the government is completely unwise at many, many different levels.

          Yours in Christ,

          John Little
          omegashock.com

      • John

        The Founders and the men that fought in the Continental Army killed for political aims called Liberty. Were the Founders opposing the. King of England, opposing God? According to the current interpretation of Romans 13 they were rebels and domestic terrorist along with fighting against God.

        Using violence to stop evil, and that means an evil government bent on destroying Gods people then yes, fight when you can and run when you have too. But if God is to judge me for defending life and liberty then I would submit He is not a just God. And I do not believe that He is unjust, I believe He expects use to thwart evil in very possible way, even taking up arms against an evil government.

        • Hi Patrick Henry 2014,

          I’m afraid that the Bible must be our guide in this. Nowhere does Jesus indicate that we should rise up against our own version of ‘The Roman Empire’. The government at the time of Jesus was just as repressive and just as illegitimate as the one that we have today. Yet, we see no call to arms in the New Testament.

          Worse, the fault for our predicament lies squarely upon ourselves. We have sinned against God, so God has turned us over for judgment. We did this. It is entirely our fault.

          Using physical means to defeat a spiritual problem will always be doomed to failure.

          I’m sorry, Patrick. I wish that I could agree with you.

          Yours in Christ,

          John Little
          omegashock.com

  7. God bless these guys that the Holy Spirit gave them eyes to see and ears to hear to see what is really going on. Jesus said;
    “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”
    Daniel wrote, John wrote in Rev. and Jesus said that our destiny is to be persecuted for the Gospel, for our faithfulness to God.

    Why are we surprised that these things have come upon us?

    So why are we fighting for something that is destined for the ash-heap of history and not fighting for a kingdom that will last forever?

    Did any of these so called Christian militias spend any time sharing the Gospel?

    Were they willing to wait upon the Lord to deliver then or take matters into their own hands (guns)?

    Thank the Lord, that He spoke to some who were truly acting as Son’s of God, Peace Makers, Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

  8. Hi, John, I see good points on both sides of this issue. I was a Marine during the Vietnam war and have had guns most of my adult life. I have made a decision not to resist if the “black Betty ” came for me but if some thug wants to break in and harm my family, well, that’s an entirely different matter. ,,,,God Bless,,,,Darrell

    • Hi Darrell Propst,

      I hear you, and I feel exactly the same way. If someone broke into my home… I’m afraid that someone is going to get hurt and/or dead.

      If I’m wrong in taking that position, may the Lord show me the right position.

      Thank you, Darrell, for that excellent comment.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  9. force against bandits (bring a sword verses) vs force against bad rulers.
    Christian apathy is true and one of reasons we got here, but apathy towards sin, a long walk away from Truth/Christ.
    So we get the rule we made, the bed was made now the rule shows.
    Christ cast out the money changers-from His Fathers house..the money changers were still in gov etc..is “america” God’s house? no. are any of the kingdoms of men God’s house? no.

    Past evil rule/persecutions are helpful to study, a small glimpse is hebrews 10:34..they seized believers possessions, and those believers took it as joy..strange group? yet commended by God.
    What was will be again, and anger, and whose kingdom do we belong to? There’s a kingdom today that is doing very very well, but it’s not of this world. The world perishes and the lusts thereof, runs with the devil, bad now and angry?, what about as it waxes worse? Perhaps anger comes from still being tied somehow somewhere to this present world in heart mind and spirit? Untie, tie only to Christ, overcome evil with good.

    Changing worldly men rulers for another worldly man ruler goes nowhere=evil men will wax worse and worse, all who are still apart from Christ are still walking in evil/darkness (as we all once did eph 2), and so prophecies as to end day’s will unfold, untie from the hell bent world, abide in Christ, do as led, even seek to help others away from the wide road to hell.
    Only Change that would come, and help this nation or any nation would be through Christ. Is the gospel still preached, when Christ returns will He find faith upon the earth?
    Some will be saved though, keep working the works of eternal value, and rejoice always.

    (the world perishes 1st john 2:17, luke 21:9 and 22, rev 17:17 and others, these things must first be/the word will be fulfilled, truly the world perishes..I just can’t find any reason to fight for what perishes, but people/souls will go on, question is where. But by chance if there was a great rival, would that change to any degree the rule? So good change would only come through grace and faith in Christ.)

    • Hey Jus’Say’n,

      Thank you for that. I actually HAD seen this, and it resonated with me. But, I had also forgotten it.

      Nathan Leal is a VERY good man.

      Thank you, Jus’Say’n, for that important reminder. God bless you, brother.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

    • Nathan, I read the post you linked above, and was unsurprised and in complete agreement with you on all points therein. I saw Dumitru Duduman about 20 years ago where he gave his testimony. I immediately consecrated a fast to ask the Lord if the prophetic things he saw regarding America were/are true, and I asked the Lord, “Where is America in the Bible, if at all?” Three days into the fast, at night I awoke (I was single and living alone at the time) to find a man standing over my bed. He spoke loudly, “Jeremiah 51:28!” Then he vanished.

      I knew a few things by that messenger. America is fulfilling Biblical prophecies against Mystery Babylon / the daughter of Babylon, and will soon be completely destroyed by the outpouring of the (now full) cup of the wrath of God. God is the One who has placed the hooks in the jaws of the Russian and Chinese military and the US federal government, to bring us to this place where He will pour out His wrath upon this most wicked nation!

      My post has nothing to do with using guns for political aims or patriotic idolatry. I am completely opposed to using weapons to commit violence for any purpose other than the defense of the defenseless. BUT WE MUST NOT judge those who are truly convicted to own and possibly use weapons as being deceived and opposing the commands of Jesus Christ! Otherwise we judge those who sacrificed themselves for us! That is all I meant to say in my post. And Mr. Little never answered my following his logic to its complete end – that, following his logic in his original post (which I read over 5 times!), no Christian could either be a soldier or a policeman.

      I have lived my life for the past thirty years in fastings, groanings and much prayer, and I continue to do so. I will not judge any brother in Christ regarding this issue – it is much more complex than has been stated here or in your voluminous post linked above. We must all conduct ourselves in the Fear of the Lord, knowing we will stand before Him and give account for every word and deed we have done on this earth. On that I agree with you all! And I am prepared to do so.

      • Hi Clay Anthony,

        What a powerful comment. Thank you. It gave me chills to read it.

        As to your point about being a soldier or policeman, I am sorry that I did not explain. (This is all so very complex.)

        First of all, as a policeman or soldier, you are no longer completely free to decide whether or how you should take a life. Also, there are responsibilities that go with such a position that could mean life or death for those you have been entrusted to protect.

        If you believe that ‘The State’ or Nation that you seek to serve is righteous and just, then you might be able to take up service with that State or Nation. It is a judgment call that only you can make.

        For myself, I would have fought in World War II, but not the Vietnam War – if given the choice. For those of you who did fight in Vietnam, my hat goes off to you. You were betrayed, and I am so sorry.

        It may be that I am incorrect in all of this, so PLEASE take all of this to the Lord. May God guide us in this path and forgive us for the mistakes that we will make.

        Thank you again, for that comment Clay. Well said, brother.

        Yours in Christ,

        John Little
        omegashock.com

  10. Hi John. Well, brother, you’ve addressed a pretty heavy topic today, one that I’ve wrestled with over the last couple of years. After a friend was subjected to two mugging attempts and threatened with violence, and after several friends were subjected to break-ins, I decided it was time to arm myself. My motivations are defensive. My primary focus is the protection of loved ones. I purchased Chuck and Tim Baldwin’s book, To Keep or Not to Keep. I carry my weapon every day and pray that I never need to use it other than at the range. I also pray frequently for the wisdom to know when defensive action may be needed, and when fleeing is God’s will. I’ve gone so far as to even ask for angelic assistance in fleeing if it is God’s will (as per Lot’s experience in fleeing Sodom). In summary, I believe one can be a follower of Jesus Christ and also possess weapons. In owning weapons, one should appreciate the heavy responsibilities that come with it, and should remain prayerful regarding that responsibility.

    • Hi Jeff Visomirski,

      I believe that you are taking the right approach. Seek God’s direction and pray for God’s deliverance if you are on the wrong path.

      Yes, your gun is for the purpose of taking life. It’s what it does. That’s what it is there for. And, I believe that there are times when a Christian must take a life.

      Let me repeat that.

      There are times when a Christian must kill.

      But, we do not kill for politics, personal gain, or property.

      I cannot say with complete certainty that I have taken the right position on this, and I pray that God would show me where I am wrong, if I am.

      God bless you, Jeff, for taking the Godly approach.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  11. Hi John.
    I enjoy your articles very much.However I must agree with Smilardog and Clay Anthony.People should research the customs of ancient Israel.To slap somebody in the face was not regarded as violence,but as an insult.It’s what is known in our society as a ‘bitch slap’.It was a form of
    insult of the highest form.Violence was a punch.Even at Jesus’s trial they did not punch Him but slapped Him.
    Didn’t the Lord tell his Apostles to buy a sword in Luke22:36? Back then a sword was todays rifle.Also how do you think the Gospel was spread so fast in the Roman world? It was spread by the Roman Legions.Witnessing the Gospel at night,the next day standing shoulder to shoulder with his fellow soldiers fighting the Barbarians.Jesus was non violent.Yes.Otherwise how could the Scriptures be fulfilled?But didn’t Jesus Himself use a whip on the money changers?If a Christian was not to use violence ,how could he serve in the Military?
    As one American pastor said when asked if a Christian should serve in the Military.
    “What you need to understand is that God ordained this nation to be a place where people could worship freely,and a place where other nations could look and see the foundation of that freedom is the belief that it is God who grants that freedom to All men.He’s called this country to be a light in a world of darkness.And He didn’t create a country where believers could have freedom with the expectation that unbelievers would defend it.It’s not only right for Christians to defend this country,it’s their responsibility.If God calls you to defend this country,He’s not offering you a job,He’s calling you to service’
    As for fighting a tyrannical Govt,remember John your Armed Forces swore an oath to fight all enemies,both Foreign and DOMESTIC.
    Lastly John,the Constitution of the USA states that the right to bear Arms is God given not Govt given.
    Walt

    • Hi Walter,

      You have widened the discussion quite a bit.

      When you bear the sword for ‘the state’, that changes the complexion of things. You are no longer a man (or woman) with free will in the matter. There are holes in that argument, but I will leave it for now.

      As to the connection with ancient Israel, there is a severe problem. The US is NOT ‘The Promised Land’, nor is the US doing ‘the will of God’. In fact, we haven’t been a truly Christian nation for quite some time. The best that can be said is that we WERE a more Christian nation than most.

      And now that we have become the purveyor of pornography, abortion, sodomy, murder, terrorism, theft, drugs and witchcraft… well, no Christian should ever defend such a country as that. It would be a sin to do so.

      If you wish to save America, there is one way, and only one way:

      If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. – 2 Chronicles 7:14

      Thank you, Walter, for that thoughtful comment.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  12. John this has been going on for a long time…

    Here’s their plan…

    AGENDA 21

    http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf

    Executive Order 13575

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/DCPD-201100431/pdf/DCPD-201100431.pdf

    As you are about to see in this Ronald Reagan speech from 1964, nothing has changed

    Ronald Reagan 1964 Land Grab & Property Rights Speech Warns Of Agenda 21

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVnfQgt0MZc#t=505

    Ephesians 6

    0Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

    11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

    15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    18Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

    Shalom

    Marc

  13. He also said if you do not have a sword BUY ONE. Let me ask you if when the Jews were being railroaded off where was the church? Should they have been there to fight?

    • Hi Joel,

      I agree that Jesus DID say to go out and buy a sword, but He did NOT say to use it for political gain or to protect your property.

      As to the Jews, true Christians and other Jews DID try to warn them, but they didn’t listen.

      Furthermore, as someone who has made a hobby out of military tactics and strategy, violent opposition to Hitler once he got into power would have been tactically foolish. I would have chosen sabotage – which many did.

      And yes, the true church did resist Hitler – at least those who had open eyes. But, they did not do so to protect their ‘rights’ or to preserve their businesses or their possessions.

      Did Jesus tell His followers to resist the illegal occupation of the Romans?

      No.

      Joel, consider carefully if you are following the commands of our Lord and Savior. You say that you know Jesus, but does He know you?

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

    • My Lord and I know each other. Being a Believer does not mean being a coward. We would not have a country without Christians using guns. For taxation without representation. Should the founding fathers not have done that? You might want to step off your high horse. You might also want to read the Christian Manifesto by Francis Schaeffer.

      • Hi Joel,

        I’m sorry, but this is a discussion about Biblical foundation for the use of the gun. And, you are not offering any verse that indicates our obligation to take up arms against the government.

        As I said before, during the time of Jesus, the Romans illegally occupied Israel and illegally exacted taxes from Israelis. Yet, Jesus said to cooperate with the Romans – to pay the illegal taxes.

        Furthermore, we are at this point in time because of our sin. We Christians have sinned before God, and we are refusing to acknowledge that sin. We could end all of the abuse and all of the repression by doing one thing:

        If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.2 Chron. 7:14

        Can’t you at least acknowledge that this is the answer?

        Worse, this desire to take up arms is playing right into the hands of Satan. The patriot movement is following exactly the same course that the Israeli patriot movement followed in 60 AD, which lead to the destruction of Israel in 70 AD.

        Show me chapter and verse that is in the same context as what we are dealing with here, and I will reconsider.

        Yours in Christ,

        John Little
        omegashock.com

        • Taking up arms against the governement is not what happened at the Bundy ranch and no one was shot. The thing you are completely missing is that the presence of firearms can prevent destruction and genocide without a shot being fired. They just have to be there in the right hands.

          Try Isaiah 59 12-16 and there is no justice,

          I would say “does He know you” was pride speaking

          • Hi Joel,

            I’m sorry, but when someone carries a firearm into a situation like that, there can be only one intention – to kill.

            Second, if even one of those BLM agents died, no matter how ‘lawfully’ he/she was killed, it would have been a complete disaster for the patriot movement – which is why I was pleased to see a call go out for NO FIREARMS, which is the only strategically (and tactically) smart move to make.

            If you need firearms to protect the Bundy ranch, you’ve already lost the battle because you don’t have enough ‘patriots’ to win even an armed conflict.

            From a strategic standpoint, you are proposing defeat before the war was even started.

            From a spiritual standpoint, you can find no basis in the New Testament for killing for political or monetary motives. None.

            If you wish to go to the Old Testament, you need to establish two things first:

            Is America ‘The Promised Land’?

            Is your movement without sin?

            You need both, and I can already prove that there is grave sin among American Christians. And, you CANNOT prove that America is ‘The Promised Land’ without being a Mormon.

            The Promised Land is a claim attributable to only ONE piece of land in the world.

            And no, ‘does He know you’ was NOT pride speaking. This is a question that I ask everyone who has lost their prime focus: eternity.

            Joel, we are citizens of a future country. You need to remember that.

            Yours in Christ,

            John Little
            omegashock.com

        • Or maybe this time taking up arms against this tyrannical government will be like it was in 1776 when our founding fathers won independence? Even Solomon said there’s a time for peace…and a time for war.

          I understand your point; however, in that a Christian must make every effort to avoid violence at all costs. But when the time comes to draw the line in the sand, each of us will be held to account for our actions.

          Lines are being drawn in the sand as we speak. As for me and my house, we will follow the LORD. Armed, mind you, but following the LORD.

          • Hi Jerry C.

            Thank you for your thoughtfulness. Just be careful to seek the Lord in all of this. We will all stand before God one day, and I want us all to hear the words ‘well done!’

            Thank you, Jerry.

            Yours in Christ,

            John Little
            omegashock.com

  14. It just so happens that offthegridnews.com posted one of their own articles on the same subject, so I thought that it would be appropriate to include it here in our conversation with links back to the original article.

    http://www.offthegridnews.com/2014/04/21/is-killing-in-self-defense-biblically-justified/

    Is Killing In Self-Defense Biblically Justified?

    Written by: Pat B Self Defense April 21, 2014

    bible and gunsAs a CCW instructor I am frequently asked about the moral implications of using deadly force in self-defense. I conduct most of my classes for local church groups, so I may actually get more questions along those lines than a lot of other instructors.

    My general guidelines tend to be that I would not suggest the taking of a life merely to defend property. I tell my students often that If I am certain that giving over my wallet or my car will end a situation I am perfectly content to relinquish the wallet (The contents will be horribly disappointing to the thief!) or the car (which would probably fall apart in anything resembling a high speed escape!)

    The trouble is that these days criminals are a very violent lot, and there are no assurances that handing over any amount of property will end a matter, as an act of violence may even be the primary intent of a perpetrator. If my wife or kids are present, ending a situation quickly and decisively is the only option, and I advise my students to take this same tact.

    As Christians, we are obligated to weigh all of our actions against the teachings of Scripture. Therefore, the questions that I have had to confront and confront again in almost every class is this: Is there any Biblical support for utilizing deadly force in the defense of innocent life? Does the Bible support the bearing of arms? When is deadly force an acceptable option for a Believer? These are very deep questions for Christians to confront.

    [snip! (sorry) – JL]

    While being armed is acceptable for Christians, it is not required. To carry a weapon remains a very personal moral choice. Often, female students in particular will tell me that they don’t think they could take a life. My response to that is always that this probably makes them better people than those of us who can, but that if they can’t use the gun they should not carry the gun. There is no shame in that. If you do choose to carry, know that there is Biblical support for this choice, as well as a mandate to protect innocent life. Deadly force to save your children, or any innocent, is perfectly acceptable, which should make Momma Bears feel better about the choice.

    Vengeance and vigilante actions are not ours to pursue. Only true life-threatening circumstances are supported biblically, but these are the only times you should be considering deadly force anyway. As in everything, pray for discernment and wisdom, but pray in advance because there is little time when a situation comes up.

  15. Hello John,
    As usual, your topic is prescient and worthy of immediate contemplation by believers. While considering the many thoughtful opinions of Omega Shock blog readers and yourself, one comment stood out for me, yours. “Jesus did not say”. Jesus admonishment to acquire that which in today’s vernacular would likely be translated as “gun”, but giving no specific directive on the morally correct time to wield it speaks volumes. I believe by saying nothing he said everything. By saying posses one he infers it has some use consistent with scripture. The apostles were not soldiers or police officers so clearly he was speaking to the appropriateness of individual believers having a weapon outside an official capacity. Swords kill like hammers drive nails, so we can infer Jesus was saying there are situations where taking a life is appropriate. I think the sticky part for us many times is looking at how Jesus behaved in his ministry, and seeking to apply it literally to ourselves. Jesus didn’t need a sword as no one could take his life from him (jn 10:17-18) I don’t have that ability. Jesus did not resist his arrest BECAUSE he was set for the cross. At other times disappeared from the grasp of those seeking to kill him prematurely, again not an ability I possess. This to say, we must consider the entire council of scripture in this regard, what DID Jesus do does not always supply the answer. As you rightly said, God will judge the motivations driving our actions. We should be considering these things before we are in such scenarios and assess where our heart is at. As a police officer, for me this is a daily consideration. Also of consideration is the fact I’m the enforcement arm of the state. If the state is showing signs of unjust activity, I am bound by scripture to appose such activity (Eph 5:11). I am constantly admonishing co-workers that unless they want to wake up guarding a concentration camp and wondering how in the hell they got there, they had better SPEAK out now. Later the choices will be doing evils bidding for a paycheck or a bullet in the head. As a Sheriffs deputy I can see it so clearly, hold that 10th amendment and honor your oath. Be a blessing, a covering and a hedge against evil for your community and you will find favor in the eyes of the Lord…

    • Hi David,

      Well said. Thank you for that, and thank you for standing in the gap for those who cannot defend themselves. God bless you for your service.

      And yes, there will be times that you will need to take a life, but it will be your duty and not one in which you seek either political or monetary gain. The heart is the key.

      Again, thank you, David.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  16. Enjoyed what has been spoken by all concerning such a difficult problem. I myself am a follower of Christ and try to make peace with all men if possible. making peace with all men sometimes is not possible.
    I believe we are to use all of our spiritual weapons for God’s divine protection. Our battle is not with flesh…but with evil spirits that work through evil men given over to the lust of their flesh and their basic animal instincts.
    With all that said…if need be…I will do what I need to do to protect my family from evil and wicked men. As a Father and husband I am called to be both provider and protector of my home and family.
    The taking of some ones life is a serious matter and I pray and hope I never have to do such a thing, but I could not in good conscience stand by and see my family injured or hurt if I could do something about it.
    God help us all in these trying times. Dear God gives us your wisdom. Our enemies are many…but we serve an awesome God.

  17. Romans 14:3~

    “For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”

    Theres certain reasons when I will kill, if my family is in danger, or if we become engulfed in war. I wont hesitate to kill, its either them or my family I know were all gunna die eventually, but I love my family too much to do nothing for them knowing something is coming, I know my intentions aré pure, and i’m confident God wont allow me to kill anyone He doesnt want dead yet. We just have to remember our God, His promises and our heart.

    Jesus loves you so much John! Thank you for all you’ve shared with us!
    -Eric

    • Hi Eric Napoli,

      I feel the same way that you do. And, I believe that the Bible agrees with your position. However, since I am an imperfect interpreter of the Bible, always make sure that what you think and feel are in line with what the Bible says.

      Keep reading your Bible. God will always speak to you from His word!

      Thank you, Eric. Great comment, brother.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

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